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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony - 'Everybody says I am wrong so I must be right' does not wash.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cucullus non facit monachum: The cowl does not make the monk; don't trust to appearances.

I had to google it not being blessed with a latin education.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony

I have just been looking at a book where its says that there comes a point where "legal solutions are not predetermined by some logical system but are instead only explicable in terms of more fundamental value judgments". It is a point I have been trying to make when exchanging views with you in other threads. I have to say, with respect, that if you do not grasp the importance of this you will never be able to enter into meaningful dialogue with lawyers.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterM24 wrote:
Tony...may I make a suggestion.....put your electric blanket on, get your hot water bottle ready, and then take a long nap.


A VERY LONG NAP
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well gentleman, you have had a fine weekend gathering the Klan.

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all those people who DON'T understand what I have said, write in to this post, QUOTING what they don't understand, and I will explain.
Nobody had a question, so that is now closed.

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I did say back Monday with the bin liner.


With the new posts I shall work backwards, baking as I go. I assume the novilleros, smg, PeterM24, ncmoody are more than content exchanging smilies and their gems of wit, between themselves, they look a fun loving happy group that are better left to it.

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Tony. I have just been looking at a book where its says that there comes a point where "legal solutions are not predetermined by some logical system but are instead only explicable in terms of more fundamental value judgments". It is a point I have been trying to make when exchanging views with you in other threads. I have to say, with respect, that if you do not grasp the importance of this you will never be able to enter into meaningful dialogue with lawyers.


I have taken your points, put reasonably and said so, but with respect the exchange is one sided, you invariably argue to derogate and eliminate the important function of sound reasoning in reaching sound judgements. Your sequences have been shown where that can fail with considerable precision and gone unacknowledged. Regrettably in typical lawyer fashion, where 'admit nothing and deny everything' has produced widespread corresponding professional malformations, I suggest you fail to acknowledge to others a valid comment, unlike myself.

Another book, suggests.
Pol - precepts,
to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man


More focussed however;

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you will never be able to enter into meaningful dialogue with lawyers.


I have admittedly not had voluminous encounters with lawyers in court, but I can say that without exception, those I had exchanges with, incontrovertibly; often shamefully lost their 'briefs'.

In a similar; less dignified way here, where bakedalaska's quotes reveals their contents.

I wonder, referring to meaningful dialogue with lawyers. If you have in mind those exampled here, then let us look at the meaningful dialogue they have to offer.

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Smilies, LONG NAP, utter crap, Oh no Woolfy, Dont make it Good Night, make it Good Bye, Ferenganar, Cardassia Prime,verbal diarrhoea ! sauce for the Goose, Oh baby baby, My loneliness is killin me, hang myself.


I trust you are not referring to these honourable gentlemen, or their witty legalese, and the amalgam of language whose appetite can't help avoiding references to body functions and sound-bites. I wonder who else, you refer to, and do these honourable gentleman use this legalese in court? What kind of court is that?

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Tony - 'Everybody says I am wrong so I must be right' does not wash.


Either you are you QUOTING me OR you are manufacturing SYNTHETIC sound-bites and placing them on me as false representations.

I would like the reference please, it doesn't read like me.
I usually 'quote'to avoid manufacturing false representations, and particularly I am careful when using FULLY distributed terms like Everybody.

If there is NO quoted reference, it's the latter. We can leave the washing for later if need be.

Now for the gems of

Bakedalasker
1st You left out ncmoody's, bout of verbal diarrhoea !

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Tony, you talk utter crap. You use words out of context. Is English your first language?

what I ignore is the purpose of this post. What I wont ignore is your efforts to belittle users who slightly oppose


I assume you didn't look for the missing part of the couplet, from my last reply. And you now support in, (Oh no Woolfy you have now given Tony more opportunity) and suggest he wasn't hard hitting enough.

Tony, you talk utter crap. Presumably requires a response of adulating praise.... As does the person who stated verbal diarrhoea.

belittle users; NOT OTHER users, so this includes you, where I have shown inconsistencies, and as above the two nice phrases belong presumably to the class of users who you wish to defend since they either cannot do so themselves when insulting and receiving, or have asked you to help. Are you defending them or are you masking your own inconsistencies is the question the reader will ask?

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I just ignore his posts for reasons mentioned by the other posters.
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(utter crap, and verbal diarrhoea ?)


Now BECOMES when it suits, what I ignore is the purpose of this post.

Either you said what you meant, that's fully transcribed for all to re-examine, or you didn't. I quite like how you synthesise new reasons, with the flow AS IF meant originally.


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What I wont ignore is your efforts to belittle users who slightly oppose your views.


You are now your and their defender?

I have the significant impression that the people who opposed my views can hardly be referred to as SLIGHTLY opposing, NOT with the aforementioned language and inconsistencies. The false emphasis may serve a point, but fails when examined in the light of the SLEIGHT comments that is the bulk of their and your 'purses' contents.

Suggestion; take a note; if you go swimming with inchoate ideas, in a sea of words whose meanings elude you, you may end up drowning in gibberish.

Your agreeing with woolfy, and his edifying language, also suggests 'noscitur e sociis:' Perhaps I will let our 'salgado investigations' do the honours here. Although he should have followed through on the last one explaining HOW I used it.

Such fun gentlemen and NO, it's not goodbye, sorry, things are still baking. What you want is to deliver insults and ask me to leave, but the best way to achieve your objective is to suppress your insatiable appetites to insult, then there will be far less, or in fact nothing coming back, got it? It should be simple enough.

As there's nothing of either importance or urgency here, I will recur on a few days to examine the new autonomous reactive formulations.

I shall leave 'The posterior of the day, most generous sirs' to your fittest enjoyment and admirable generosity of spirit.
A clue.....Holofernes, perhaps just, forget it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what you are saying is, if no one replies you wont post anything more?

Whoops.

I feel some Scissor Sisters coming on........
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone hold him down. Whatever, just stop him posting.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smg wrote:
So what you are saying is, if no one replies you wont post anything more?

Whoops.

I feel some Scissor Sisters coming on........


If he confirms this then......................
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tony - 'Everybody says I am wrong so I must be right' does not wash.


Either you are you QUOTING me OR you are manufacturing SYNTHETIC sound-bites and placing them on me as false representations.

Or, I am paraphrasing something you have said on several occasions.



It is time to call a halt.

If you disagree or agree with Tony, feel free to say so.
If you understand (or do not understand ) what Tony is saying feel free to say so.

Lets pull back on personal attacks on anyone. Please.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dls wrote:
Lets pull back on personal attacks on anyone. Please.
I agree with this. He hasn't attacked anyone and has kept everything respectful and polite. Does it ever need to be anything else?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has not been respectful nor polite, but DLS' word is final on such points and I intend to follow it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smg wrote:
He has not been respectful nor polite, but DLS' word is final on such points and I intend to follow it.


Ditto
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