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dls
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| Tony - 'Everybody says I am wrong so I must
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SALGADO INVESTIGATIONS
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cucullus non facit monachum: The cowl does
not make the monk; don't trust to appearances.
I had to google it not being blessed with a latin education.
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theycantdothat
Joined: 17 Oct 2005
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:54 pm
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Tony
I have just been looking at a book where its says that there comes a
point where "legal solutions are not predetermined by some logical
system but are instead only explicable in terms of more fundamental
value judgments". It is a point I have been trying to make when
exchanging views with you in other threads. I have to say, with
respect, that if you do not grasp the importance of this you will never
be able to enter into meaningful dialogue with lawyers. |
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PeterM24
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:01 pm
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ncmoody
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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Location: Worcester, England
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:52 pm
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| Tony...may
I make a suggestion.....put your electric blanket on, get your hot
water bottle ready, and then take a long nap. |
A
VERY LONG NAP |
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PeterM24
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Tony
Joined: 02 Jul 2006
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:25 pm
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Well gentleman, you have had a fine weekend
gathering the Klan.
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all those people who DON'T understand what I have said, write in to
this post, QUOTING what they don't understand, and I will explain. |
Nobody had
a question, so that is now closed.
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| I did say
back Monday with the bin liner. |
With the new posts I shall work backwards, baking as I go. I assume the
novilleros, smg, PeterM24, ncmoody are more than content exchanging
smilies and their gems of wit, between themselves, they look a fun
loving happy group that are better left to it.
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theycantdothat
Tony. I have just been looking at a book where its says that there
comes a point where "legal solutions are not predetermined by some
logical system but are instead only explicable in terms of more
fundamental value judgments". It is a point I have been trying to make
when exchanging views with you in other threads. I have to say, with
respect, that if you do not grasp the importance of this you will never
be able to enter into meaningful dialogue with lawyers. |
I have taken your points, put reasonably and said so, but
with respect the exchange is one sided, you invariably argue to
derogate and eliminate the important function of sound reasoning in
reaching sound judgements. Your sequences have been shown where that
can fail with considerable
precision and gone unacknowledged.
Regrettably in typical lawyer fashion, where 'admit nothing and deny
everything' has produced widespread corresponding professional
malformations, I suggest you fail to acknowledge to others a valid
comment, unlike myself.
Another
book, suggests.
Pol
- precepts,
to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man
More focussed however;
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never be able to enter into meaningful dialogue with lawyers. |
I have admittedly not had voluminous encounters with lawyers in court,
but I can say that without exception, those I had exchanges with,
incontrovertibly; often shamefully lost
their 'briefs'.
In a similar; less dignified way here, where bakedalaska's quotes
reveals their contents.
I wonder, referring to meaningful dialogue with lawyers. If you have in
mind those exampled here, then let us look at the meaningful dialogue
they have to offer.
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Smilies,
LONG NAP, utter crap, Oh no Woolfy, Dont make it Good Night, make it
Good Bye, Ferenganar, Cardassia Prime,verbal diarrhoea ! sauce for the
Goose, Oh baby baby, My loneliness is killin me, hang myself. |
I trust you are not referring to these honourable gentlemen, or their
witty legalese, and the amalgam of language whose appetite can't help
avoiding references to body
functions and sound-bites. I wonder who else, you refer
to, and do these
honourable gentleman use this legalese in court? What kind
of court is that?
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dls
Tony - 'Everybody says I am wrong so I must be right' does not wash. |
Either you are you QUOTING me OR you are manufacturing SYNTHETIC
sound-bites and placing
them on me as false representations.
I would like the reference please, it doesn't read like me.
I usually 'quote'to
avoid manufacturing false representations, and particularly I am
careful when using FULLY distributed terms like Everybody.
If
there is NO quoted reference, it's the latter. We can
leave the washing for later if need be.
Now for the gems of
Bakedalasker
1st You left out ncmoody's, bout of verbal diarrhoea !
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Woolfy
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Tony, you talk utter crap. You use words out of context. Is English
your first language? |
what I ignore is the purpose of this post. What I wont ignore is your
efforts to belittle users who slightly oppose |
I assume you didn't look for the missing part of the couplet, from my
last reply. And you now support in, (Oh no Woolfy you have now given
Tony more opportunity) and suggest he wasn't hard hitting enough.
Tony, you talk utter crap. Presumably requires a response of adulating
praise.... As does the person who stated verbal diarrhoea.
belittle users; NOT
OTHER users, so this includes you, where I have shown
inconsistencies, and as above the two nice phrases belong presumably to
the class of users who you wish to defend since they either cannot do
so themselves when insulting and receiving, or have asked you to help.
Are you defending them or are you masking your own inconsistencies is
the question the reader will ask?
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ignore his posts for reasons mentioned by the other posters. |
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crap, and verbal diarrhoea ?) |
Now BECOMES when it suits, what I ignore is the purpose of
this post.
Either you said what you
meant, that's fully transcribed for all to re-examine, or
you didn't. I quite like how you synthesise new reasons, with the flow
AS IF meant originally.
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| What I
wont ignore is your efforts to belittle users who slightly oppose your
views. |
You are now your and their defender?
I have the significant impression that the people who opposed my views
can hardly be referred to as SLIGHTLY
opposing, NOT with the aforementioned language and inconsistencies. The
false emphasis may serve a point, but fails when examined in the light
of the SLEIGHT comments
that is the bulk of their and your 'purses' contents.
Suggestion; take a note; if you go swimming with inchoate ideas, in a
sea of words whose meanings elude you, you may end up drowning in
gibberish.
Your agreeing with woolfy, and his edifying language, also suggests
'noscitur e sociis:' Perhaps I will let our 'salgado investigations' do
the honours here. Although he should have followed through on the last
one explaining HOW I used it.
Such fun gentlemen and NO, it's not goodbye, sorry, things are still
baking. What you want is to deliver insults and ask me to leave, but
the best way to achieve your objective is to suppress your insatiable
appetites to insult, then there will be far less, or in fact nothing
coming back, got it?
It should be simple enough.
As there's nothing of either importance or urgency here, I will recur
on a few days to examine the new autonomous reactive formulations.
I shall leave 'The posterior of the day, most generous sirs' to your
fittest enjoyment and admirable generosity of spirit.
A clue.....Holofernes, perhaps just, forget it.
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smg
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:38 pm
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So what you are saying is, if no one
replies you wont post anything more?
Whoops.
I feel some Scissor Sisters coming on........ |
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Bakedalasker
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Posts: 1067
Location: South France
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:40 pm
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| Someone hold him down. Whatever, just stop
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Bakedalasker
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Posts: 1067
Location: South France
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:42 pm
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So what
you are saying is, if no one replies you wont post anything more?
Whoops.
I feel some Scissor Sisters coming on........ |
If he confirms this then...................... |
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dls
Site Admin
Joined: 10 Apr 2005
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:13 pm
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dls
Tony - 'Everybody says I am wrong so I must be right' does not wash.
Either you are you QUOTING me OR you are manufacturing SYNTHETIC
sound-bites and placing them on me as false representations.
Or, I am paraphrasing something you have said on several occasions.
It is time to call a halt.
If you disagree or agree with Tony, feel free to say so.
If you understand (or do not understand ) what Tony is saying feel free
to say so.
Lets pull back on personal attacks on anyone. Please. |
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SALGADO INVESTIGATIONS
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
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Location: CROYDON, SURREY
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:43 pm
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| Lets pull
back on personal attacks on anyone. Please. |
I agree
with this. He hasn't attacked anyone and has kept everything respectful
and polite. Does it ever need to be anything else?
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PeterM24
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:46 pm
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smg
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:57 pm
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| He has not been respectful nor polite, but
DLS' word is final on such points and I intend to follow it. |
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ncmoody
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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Location: Worcester, England
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:08 pm
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| He has not
been respectful nor polite, but DLS' word is final on such points and I
intend to follow it. |
Ditto |
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